vintage van's style #619 ~ US8 ? style #38 sk8-hi the boxes are flat &

the boxes are flat & without tears however do shoe water damage with staining & cardboard separation

saying that

the white rubber first foxing (foxing stripe area) has cured/solidified almost throughout & become brittle

these have seen significant wear however back in the 70s were made like sherman tanks

5N/UK7N (gum waffle outsole portion measures 25

vintage van's style #619 ~ US8 ? style #38 sk8-hi the boxes are flat &vintage van's style #619 laceup deck cvo sole custom #80 olive canvas calender c outsole customade in usa 1990 used in box US8? UK7. 5 (calender outsole measures 28cm) excellent used condition. all rubber remains soft & flexible. both shoes & box list US8, plus c outsole measures longer than waffle, however they fit between US8 & US8. 5.